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PETER Rose is the foremost statistician on greyhound bloodlines in the country.
For the past decade he has produced Australian Winning Lines, the bible for serious breeders throughout the country.
He has just produced Volume 11 and there are some amazing facts and figures to be derived from it. Volume 11 covers racing in 2003.
The feature races on which they are based are all Group 1, 2 and 3 events plus some other features with lesser prizemoney that have been keenly contested over a number of years.
Sires
* The most successful sire of feature winners in Australia in 2003 was Just The Best with 15, followed by Awesome Assassin and Black Shiraz (both 14) and then Token Prince with 13. These were clearly the dominant stud dogs in the land as the next most successful were Big Ginger Boy and Light Of Fire who both had five.
* The Sires of Sires title went to Credibility (28 via Just The Best, Faithful Hawk, Nobody's Fool, History Lesson, Ballistic Jet, Bearability and Questions), from Ginger (24 via Black Shiraz, Big Ginger Boy, Oak Raider and Ginger Magee), Malawi's Prince (24 via Token Prince, Prince Of Tigers, Awesome McLaren, Placard, Mighty Glory and Royal Pilgrim), Light Of Fire (20 via Awesome Assassin, Solve The Puzzle, Elle's Dominator and Lilli Pilli Lad), Head Honcho (16 via Cry Havoc, Go Wild Teddy, Royal Assassin, Wild Season, Clearwater Boy, Go Diesel, Master Havoc and Mean Bean) and New Tears (12 via Light Of Fire, Proper Tears, Ultimate Wish and New Fox).
These accounted for 68.1% of all feature winners.
* Following the sireline straight back to the stud dogs of around 15 years ago, we find that Brother Fox line sires produced 37.9% of feature winners in 2003.
The Pretty Short sireline accounted for 20.3%, Eaglehawk Star 14.3% and Malawi 14.3%.
Amazingly Chariot Supreme line stud dogs only sired two feature winners during the year. His future on the top line of pedigrees probably depends on one of Golden Currency's sons making the grade.
* Looking further back, the Temlee sireline provided 72.5% of feature winners while the Waverly Supreme sireline got 16.5%. The Thunder Lane sireline accounted for 2.2% and the remaining 8.8% came from an assortment of overseas based sirelines.
Dams
* The most successful broodbitch would have to be Mystery Bird (Farloe Melody*-Dollar Bird) who had five feature winning offspring in 2003, Cyrus The Virus, Lara Flynn, Twain and Unopposed (all in her sensational Black Shiraz litter) and Garland Green (by Go Wild Teddy).
The next best were 13 bitches who all had two feature winners; Caitlyn Fox, Courageous Joyce, Dakota Belle, Emily's Idol, Gotta Return, Hunter Tylo, Miss Gypsy, Miss Winsome, November Miss, Princess Rema, Tivoli Kelly, Tranquil Scene and Two Codes.
* 14.3% of Feature Race Winners in 2003 were out of bitches who were either feature winners or track record holders.
* Of the feature race winners in Australia in 2003, 29% have dams or granddams that won a feature race or held a track record.
* 44.5% of Feature Winners in 2003 were out of bitches who had thrown other feature winners or track record holders
* 81.9% of Feature Winners were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first two generations i.e. the dams or grand-dams had either won features, run track records or were the dams or grand-dams of greyhounds who had achieved this.
* 96.7% were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first three generations.
* 98.4% were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first three generations.
* The remaining 1.6% represents three feature winners. In two cases the fourth dam was a sister to a feature winner.
* Throughout the past 15 years, approximately one in four feature winning bitches became the dams of feature winners themselves.
* The most successful damline was Little Gorgeous (better known to many as the "Osti" line) with 14 feature winners followed by Gail's Beauty with 13, Marungi Girl (8), Mabel Alice (6), Tarado (6), Freckled Pick (5), Model Donna (5) and Sancerie (5).
Linebreeding
* There was only one feature winner with linebreeding closer than 3x3. This was the Chairmans Cup winner Somersby Faus who has a 2x3 cross of Malawi's Prince.
* Only 7.7% had linebreeding within three generations.
Apart from the Malawi's Prince cross mentioned previously, the greyhounds doubled up this close were Brother Fox (five times), Amerigo Man (twice), Acacia Ablaze, Eaglehawk Star, Malawi, New Tears, Shining Chariot and Wee Sal.
* 65.9% had linebreeding within four generations.
The most common was to Brother Fox who was doubled-up in an amazing 36.3% of feature winners. This does not count a few other occasions in which he appeared in a 4x5 pattern.
The next most successful was Chariot Supreme who is linebred in 11.5%.
Then follows Waverly Supreme 8.8%, Pretty Short 6% and Temlee 4.4%. Of course Temlee and Waverly Supreme will be found in the 5th and 6th of most successful Australian greyhounds.
Eaglehawk Star, Bowetzel, Chief Dingaan, New Tears, Tangaloa, World Acclaim, Nation Parade, Roy Trease, Daleys Gold and Sand Man were also all successfully doubled up in pedigrees of at least one feature winner.
Not surprisingly Promises Free was the broodbitch who appears most often (3.3%). Linebreeding to Sabby's Image, Shining Light, Osti Lee and Pitstock Park also appeared.
* Linebreeding within five generations was very common.
Some 97.3% of feature winners were bred this way. The five greyhounds (2.7%) with no linebreeding were Flying Fort, Happy Chappy and Just Tommy (all sired by an imported greyhound) and the Shirdon's Alarm-Dakota Belle littermates, Dakota Emily and Dakota Raider.
The latter two were out of a bitch with very heavy linebreeding, bordering on being inbred.
Overseas influence
* Late Show Lady's victory in the Lismore Classic was the only instance of a feature win to an import in 2003.
* In 2003 there were four feature race winning greyhounds who were sired by imports; Flying Fort and Fortified Flyer (by Fortified Speed), Happy Chappy (by Derryfoyle) and Just Tommy (by Droopys Zola).
* 19.8% of feature winners in 2003 had a greyhound whelped overseas within it's first 2 generations.
* 37.4% had an overseas bred greyhound in the first three generations of its pedigree.
* 86.3% had an overseas bred greyhound within four generations.

THE following are some statistics derived from Volume 12 of Australian Winning Lines, covering the 2004 greyhound racing year The feature races on which they are based are all Group 1, 2 and 3 events plus some other features with lesser prizemoney that have been keenly contested over a number of years
Sires
* The most successful sire of feature winners in Australia in 2004 was Token Prince who had an outstanding year, finishing with 26 (including Classy Customer, Malfoy, Eiffella and Skipper Rip), followed by Awesome Assassin with 17 (inc Paua To Burn, Whisky Assassin and Harvey Bale) and Just The Best with 13 (inc Big Daddy Cool, Bogie Leigh and Surf Lorian).
Next was Brett Lee with 8 feature winners(inc Hallucinate, Arvo's Athena and Trewly Special) last year in his first crop. Go Wild Teddy and Light Of Fire both had 6 features winners followed by Lansley Bale, Placard and World Title who all had 5.
* The Sires of Sires title was a runaway win to Malawi's Prince (40 via Token Prince, Placard, Ashigga, Awesome McLaren, Royal Pilgrim, Prince Of Tigers and Saintly Crew) from Light Of Fire (23 via Awesome Assassin, Lilli Pilli Lad, Solve The Puzzle and Four Amigos), Credibility (21 via Just The Best, Faithful Hawk, History Lesson, Yo Yo's Boy and Questions), Head Honcho (21 via Go Wild Teddy, No Intent, Wild Season, Cry Havoc, Dave's Mentor, Hotshow Sam, Wigan Bale and Mean Bean), Gun Law Osti (14 via Brett Lee, Kobble Creek, Jack Junior and Trendy Leigh) and Star Title (10 via World Title, Major Fox, Exceptional and Hot Tickets).
These accounted for 67.2% of all feature winners.
* Following the sireline straight back to the stud dogs of around 15 years ago, we find that Brother Fox line sires produced 37.5% of feature winners in 2004.
The Malawi sireline accounted for 20.8%, Pretty Short 17.2%, Eaglehawk Star 5.7% and Rapid Supreme 5.2%.
* Looking further back, the Temlee sireline provided 60.4% (down from 72.5% in 2003) of feature winners while the Waverly Supreme sireline got 27.6% (up from 16.5%). The Thunder Lane sireline accounted for 3.1% and the remaining 8.9% came from an assortment of overseas based sirelines.
Dams
* The most successful broodbitch was Lucky Penna (Light Of Fire x Paris Match) who had 3 feature winning offspring in 2004: Art Mann, Saxonator and Texan Beauty (all in her Southern Champ litter). Lucky Penna is also set to continue the success story in 2005 having already produced a couple more feature winners.
There were also 18 bitches who had two feature winners: Alice Dooley (who was the dam of Paua To Burn and Miss Megastar), Arvo's Alarm (Arvo's Blitz and Arvo's Junior), Ashlee Jeannine (Our Spence and Regal Jasper), Classy Clara (Classy Customer and Legends), Elusive Rebel (Hallucinate and Pure Octane), Faith Louise (Faithful Blue and What's New), Gone Bye (Bigbad Bella and Kola's Ace), Hibachi (All Style and Knockabout Cher), Kiss Of Gold (Rush Of Gold and Token Kiss), Miss Fancy (Chantilly Doll and Fancy Candy), Miss Gypsy (Amaroo Gift and Our Barney), 2003's best Mystery Bird (Garland Green and Nitro Bird), Princess Alana (Blackberry Moss and Lemon Moss), Queen Size (Hitech King and Rylee's Reward), Sally Honcho (Rare Roman and Runaway Sally), Sobbing Sal (Big Daddy Cool and Lethal Weapon), Taylah's Tip (Alrow and Paper Tape) and True Quality (Datz A Smile and Datz An Assassin).
* 18.7% of Feature Race Winners in 2004 were out of bitches who were either feature winners or track record holders.
* Of the feature race winners in Australia in 2004, 33.8% have dams or granddams that won a feature race or held a track record.
* 50% of Feature Winners in 2004 were out of bitches who had thrown other feature winners or track record holders
* 83.3% of Feature Winners in 2004 were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first two generations i.e. the dams or grand-dams had either won features, run track records or were the dams or grand-dams of greyhounds who had achieved this.
* 95.3% were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first 3 generations
* 97.4% were related to other feature winners or track record holders in their first 4 generations
* The remaining 2.6% represents just five feature winners.
* Throughout the past 15 years, approximately one in four feature winning bitches became the dams of feature winners themselves.
* The most successful damlines were the Silky Echo line (behind the "Osti" dogs) and the Secret Beauty line (behind many of the "Bale" greyhounds).
Both had 13 feature winners, closely followed by Lady Tebessa (behind the Wee Sal line) with 12. Others to perform well were Safinia (behind Bay Road Queen) with eight, Mabel Alice (behind Spanish Dance and Blue Louise) with eight, Sancerie (behind National Lass and Camden Glider) with seven, Judy Margo (behind the "Fool" line) with six and Monalee Again* (behind the Sydney Gem line) with five.
Maternal Grandsires
* The most successful damsires of feature winners in 2004 was Head Honcho who had 17. Next was Malawi's Prince with 15 followed by Barneys Alarm* (11), Acacia Ablaze (8), Black Shiraz (8), Light Of Fire (8), Star Title (6), Casino Tom (5) and Farloe Melody* (5).
Linebreeding
* There were no really closely bred feature winners last year. Probably the closest were Awesome Cole (winner of the Devonport and Canberra Cups) and Stylish Force (Tasmanian Derby). Aweome Cole was bred 3x4x3 to Acacia Ablaze while Stylish Force had a 2x4 cross of Walkabout Sid together with a 3x4x5 cross of Brother Fox.
* Only 8.8% had linebreeding within three generations.
Apart from the Acacia Ablaze cross mentioned previously, the greyhounds doubled up this close were Amerigo Man (five times), New Tears (four times), Brother Fox (twice), Chariot Supreme (twice), Worth Doing (twice) and Ginger.
* 67.7% had linebreeding within four generations. The most common was to Brother Fox who was doubled-up in 37% of feature winners. This does not count other occasions in which he appeared in a 4x5 pattern.
There were also a number of triple crosses involving this champion sire. The next most successful was Chariot Supreme who is linebred in 17.2% of feature winners. Then follows Waverly Supreme 8.8% and Pretty Short 7.3%. Eaglehawk Star, Worth Doing, Walkabout Sid, Bowetzel, Chief Dingaan, New Tears, Tangaloa, Acacia Park, Nation Parade, Little Blade, Acacia Ablaze, Ginger and Dusty Rapid were also all successfully doubled up in pedigrees of at least one feature winner.
The doubling of Promises Free has become even more prevalent. She was the broodbitch who appearsmost often (8.3%). She also appeared regularly bobbed up in 5x4 crosses. Linebreeding to Shining Light occurred in 2.6% of feature winners and Sabby's Image 2.1%. Linebreeding to Bay Road Queen, Sarah Bale, Osti Lee and Pitstock Park also appeared.
* Linebreeding within five generations was very common. 95.8% of feature winners were bred this way. The eight greyhounds (4.2%) with no linebreeding were Hitech King, Rylee's Reward, Art Mann, Saxonator, Texan Beauty, Stellar, Storm Buddy and Kayla Dakota.
Overseas influence
* In 2004 there were six feature race winning greyhounds who were sired by imports: Art Mann, Saxonator and Texan Beauty (by South Champ*), Stellar and Storm Buddy (by Sweeping Storm*) and Fortified Flyer (by Fortified Speed).
* 21.3% of feature winners in 2004 had a greyhound whelped overseas within its first two generations.
* 34.4% had an overseas bred greyhound in the first three generations of its pedigree.
* 82.3% had an overseas bred greyhound within four generations.
Crosses
* The most successful cross among feature winners would have been Token Prince over Head Honcho bitches which accounted for seven feature winners from five different litters. These were All Style and Knockabout Cher (x Hibachi), Rare Roman and Runaway Sally (x Sally Honcho), Malfoy (x Many Tricks), Smack Wallop (x Sheila Blue) and Resigned (x Signing).
* The next most successful cross was Brett Lee over Malawi's Prince bitches which resulted in Arvo's Athena (x Young Daisy), Collide (x Rumble Spirit) and Saint Brett (x Little Saint).
* Other crosses with feature winners from two different litters were Token Prince over Credibility bitches (Classy Customer, Legends, Devine Gem), Token Prince across Light Of Fire (Foreign Legion, Brilliant Style), World Title across Black Shiraz (Kilby Supreme, Gozo Farmer), Arvo's Express across Barneys Alarm* (Arvo's Junior, Arvo's Blitz, Dust Storm), Awesome Assassin across Shining Chariot (Kola's Pride, Light Of Hope), Brett Lee across Light Of Fire (Infinite Beauty, Irinka Doll), History Lesson across Casino Tom (Irinka Barbie, Koutu Pirate) and Lilli Pilli Lad across Prince Of Tigers (Gordon's Larry, Karaoke Nat).




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Спасибо. А откуда взял? Может есть там что-то посвежее? Особо пока не вникла в материал, но, правда, очень интересно (теперь будет чем заняться в дорогеsmile.gif), но на вскидку, мне кажется, на сегодня уже спорно выглядит приведенная конкуренция JTB с BS или TP, когда только 13% детей линии BS (через Bombastic'а) и 11 % детей TP, против 5 % JTB участвовало, к примеру, в Мельбурн Капе'09. Но это тоже уже было вчера smile.gif
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Это может быть полезным, тем кто планирует использовать австралийский импорт.
Полезно в смысле использования австралийцев с австралийцами?
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Цитата(GREYHOUND_RACE @ Apr 3 2010, 12:55) [snapback]11773[/snapback]

Спасибо. А откуда взял? Может есть там что-то посвежее? Особо пока не вникла в материал, но, правда, очень интересно (теперь будет чем заняться в дорогеsmile.gif), но на вскидку, мне кажется, на сегодня уже спорно выглядит приведенная конкуренция JTB с BS или TP, когда только 13% детей линии BS (через Bombastic'а) и 11 % детей TP, против 5 % JTB участвовало, к примеру, в Мельбурн Капе'09. Но это тоже уже было вчера smile.gif
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Это может быть полезным, тем кто планирует использовать австралийский импорт.
Полезно в смысле использования австралийцев с австралийцами?


Спер у Дэвида Браша yes.gif
по свежее пока нет это именно 2003 и2004
да австралийцев с австралийцами, хотя там есть инфа и по заграничному влиянию(для австралии)
все что привезено с Австралии имеет эти крови, да и все что будет привезено.
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Значится так, Богдан.
В ответ на ваше
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Переводить не буду

Меня не волнует, владеют или нет владельцы грейхаундов английским, а тем более какой вИнЕгрет там получится. Можете вести личную переписку на английском или ином языке. Но!
Это русскоязычный форум. Перевод иностранного текста (или краткое резюме на русском языке) автором сообщения ОБЯЗАТЕЛЕН
Следующее ваше выступление в подобном ключе приведет к:
а) удалению иноязычного сообщения
б) переводу вас в режим "только чтение" на срок в один месяц
Видит Бог, я был терпелив к вам, и делал вам неоднократно замечания. Всему есть свой предел. cool.gif

Да, и рекомендую вам быть корректнее и внимательнее при наборе текста темы. Абракадабра - это тоже неуважение к читателям.
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Цитата(Глеб Брюсов @ Apr 3 2010, 18:43) [snapback]11777[/snapback]

Да, и рекомендую вам быть корректнее и внимательнее при наборе текста темы. Абракадабра - это тоже неуважение к читателям.


Глеб, я рад за Вас, что вы имеете много свободного времени, я к сожалению его не имею, а не поделиться такой информацией с колегами по страсти я не мог.
Если Вы не возражаете в следующий раз буду просто размещать ссылку на источник, если это тоже не противоречит правилам Вашего форума.
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Да, Богдан, размещайте любые ссылки, на нашем форуме это не запрещено, причем не важно, откуда ссылка, главное - чтоб она открывалась. Категорически "ЗА" стремление делится информацией с соплеменниками, однако делат это надо корректно, не нарушая правила форума.
Надеюсь что на этом недоразумение исчерпано.
Что касается времени.... Ну что делать, человек я старый dezl.gif , неработающий biggrin.gif , вот и сижу у компа с утра до вечера, и с вечера до утра...
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...человек я старый , неработающий , вот и сижу у компа с утра до вечера, и с вечера до утра...
Глебушка, может наконец-то выберешься в этом году в поле?
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Пока только как зритель....
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